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    God help us in this country, sometimes I thank God that I was born here because of the vast natural resources we have and also a free natural disaster zone etc. But sometimes I ask God why these corrupt and avaricious leaders are still in existence handling the affairs of this blessed country. Pls lets try and look for people with vision and not empty promises. The fact is that the only person that can make PDP still survive in 2015 is Goodluck, cos if he fails in his promises God help them, till the world ends nobody will listen to them again (It will be better they were not created). They have wasted 12years of our valuable life stealing, looting and wasting our resources. Education sector is messed up, lack of power, poor infrastructure, agricultural sector that would have given hope to many is still nothing to talk about, the one that concerns me directly, UMEMPLOYMENT is on the increase. A barrel of crude oil is about $105 and Nigeria produces abt 3.5million barrels per day yet we still crying about this manmade disasters these leaders caused, still fighting for 18,000naira minimum wages, when all those spoilers that call theirselves sit down and boundle millions to their children outside the shores of this country. God did not develop those coutries they send their children to, they developed it by theirselves, cant we do dat ourselves instead of relying on people. This was not the plan of God for ourlives(Nigerians) when he situated these solid (iron ore, coal, limestone etc.) liquid (Crude oil) and gaseous mineral resources here, he did not make a mistake doing that, yet we cry day and night for intervention. What we need in this country is character transformation and reformation not words. Probably if this continues Libya will be better than us. Lets still watch and see how 500,000 jobs we be feasible cos I still pray it better be, let the PIB be signed also and those evildoers be flushed out of this great nation or if possible be sent on exile, if that will make this our country be what God has designed it to be from the start. Thanks

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    Guy,how far?
    Did i hear you say NCD,i was thinking they have not taken pple after collecting cv via nnpc towers around September 2010?
    Abeg,can you give me more info,i submitted mine and my Senator gave me recommendation letter based on that job.
    I studied Chemical Engineering. [email protected]

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    Buhari’s Many Faces: By Julius Ogunro

    No election is complete in the United States without a comprehensive background check on the candidates. Almost everything they had said, every actions they had taken and choices made are scrutinized by the media, and the opposition. Even the clubs, and churches the candidates attend, all is up in the radar. The essence is to dig out the true character of the contestants, their ideological preferences and worldviews, and how these may colour their decisions if they get elected. Americans don’t joke with the antecedent of their politicians, especially those vying for a top position. While a candidate running for an election often say the right things and make the right noises to get elected, an investigation of his background may reveal something entirely different. He may be a closet racist or a religious bigot, or simply incompetent. It was a background check that almost torpedoed the presidential ambition of Barrack Obama in 2008. He was a member of Trinity United Church of Christ pastored by the fiery Jeremiah Wright. Wright had condemned the United States government in several sermons at the Church, blaming it for most of the world’s ills, including manufacturing the AIDS virus. The discovery endangered Obama’s presidential dream as the suspicion was that he might share his pastor’s vociferous anti-American views. Obama eventually had to denounce Wright.
    I wonder what a comprehensive background check might reveal about our Presidential candidates. But if there is one presidential candidate I don’t need any investigation into his background to know his opinion, worldview and biases, that man should be General Muhammed Buhari.
    The Buhari narrative is very well known. He became head-of-state in the early 80’s at the age of 41 after bulldozing his way into power through a coup which led to the sack of the NPN government led by Alhaji Shehu Shagari. Buhari quickly made name for himself as a no-nonsense leader who would not tolerate any dissent and indiscipline. Or so he would have us believe. This public mien as a dispassionate anti-corruption crusader was however undermined by some of the not-so secret actions he took. Firstly after the coup, several political leaders were arrested and detained. But surprisingly, while the former President Shagari was kept in a cozy apartment in Ikoyi, his deputy Alex Ekwueme was jailed at the maximum prison in Kirikiri. The question, I am sure, Buhari still finds difficult to answer almost 30 years after is: what peculiar offence did Ekwueme commit to warrant the rough treatment he got while his boss had a much better deal at Ikoyi? If the public officers were jailed because of their collective responsibility for the actions of their government, Shagari as head of that government should take most of the blame. The only exception would be that that there were peculiar and personal allegations leveled against Ekwueme, the former VP, which his boss was unaware of. Mr Buhari may want to throw more light on this. If not one is likely to believe the allegations on the street that Ekwueme was treated more harshly because he is from the Southeast unlike Shagari who is from the same Northwest zone as Buhari.
    Then during the time when old currency was being changed to new ones, Buhari announced the closure of the borders to ensure that there was no smuggling in or out of money. But even that action was dogged by allegations of bias coloured by ethnicity. Nasir El Rufai, the former FCT minister put it better in press statement he sent out earlier this year. “In 1984, Buhari allowed 53 suitcases belonging to his ADC’s father, to enter Nigeria unchecked, at a time the country was exchanging old currency for new ones,” El Rufai said. Buhari reportedly turned a blind eye to that infraction because the person involved was a leading emir from the North.
    This charge of ethnic bias has trailed Buhari throughout his public life. But as well noteworthy was his inflexibility and highhandedness. Two evidences will suffice. As head-of-state, Buhari promulgated the infamous decree four. The gist of this decree is that a journalist who reported any issue that embarrassed the military government would be sent to jail, even if the report was true. True to his threat, two journalists – Tunde Thompson and Nduka Irabor were jailed for reports, which though accurate were deemed to be embarrassing to the government. Another decree prescribed death sentence for drug traffickers, no matter the quantity of drugs trafficked; and to make it more draconian the law was retroactive. It ensnarled several drug peddlers months after they had committed the crime and before the law was passed. They were summarily executed in spite of the public outcry that the decree was against natural justice.
    If Nigeria were to be US or a more sane society, the media would have feasted on these breaches by Candidate Buhari. The fact that he sacked a legitimate government would be enough reason to rule him out of national or statewide contest for a political office. The Americans and, to some extent, the Europeans are very particular about the kind of people who offer themselves for an election. This scrutiny is not misplaced. It is to ensure that people with dubious background never hold serious political offices. That was why the candidacy of George McGovern, the Democratic Party Candidate of the 1972 US Presidential election lost traction. It was revealed that his Vice Presidential nominee, Thomas Eagleton, once suffered clinical depression and had visited a psychiatrist. Eagleton wasn’t mad, but needed help for emotional issues. That was enough to derail the presidential ambition of McGovern, even though he eventually replaced Eagleton after initially dithering. Americans don’t take a chance, even the slightest one, with those they entrust with leadership. Whoever becomes the US President becomes leader of the free world and is ultimately responsible for its nuclear arsenal. So they cannot afford to take such a chance.
    But why are many Nigerians willing to take a chance with Buhari? What in his antecedent give them hope that he will be a democrat, a fair and just leader to all? I have looked closely into the man’s history and optimism does not well up in me. As for fear, I have it plenty. For example, the 1990s were a tough period for our country. It was the time a lot of human rights and pro democracy activists took on the Sanni Abacha dictatorship. Many were killed, including Kudirat Abiola and Pa Alfred Rewane; while thousand of journalists and pro democracy activists were either sent to jail or forced into exile. Many statesmen, Ekwueme inclusive, took a stand and confronted Abacha at grave risk to their lives. Where was Buhari at this tumultuous period of our national life? Not a word was heard from him. Rather he was serving the dictator as chairman of PTF. None of the events of that time could sufficiently move him to stand up for democracy. Not the death of Kudirat. Not the attempted murder of Alex Ibru. Not the numerous protests by ordinary Nigerians who took to the street to call for the end of Abacha’s dictatorship. So how could he reap where he did not sow? How could we “gift” him with the presidency when, when it mattered most he did not show courage and failed to stand with the Nigerian people?
    With the return of democracy it was discovered that Buhari’s PTF was run like a northern enclave. The consultants that wound the fund down discovered over 70 percent of the projects executed were done in the north. The southeast was the worst of all the zones with barely a handful of projects executed there. So what offence did the South commit to warrant such neglect? The only reasonable explanation was that Buhari is a man whose worldview and consequently actions are shaped by his ethnicity and religion. That must be reason why he was the favourite spokesperson for Fulani interest. During the early 2000s, there was a conflict between Fulani cattle rearers and farmers in Oyo state. The conflict led to the death of some Fulani herdsmen. An angry Buhari was the spokesperson of the Fulani, and he warned the then Oyo Governor, Lam Adeshina to ensure the safety of his people or…There was nothing wrong with this, but for Buhari to define ‘his people’ as the Fulani of the north, why should we, the rest of the nation, expect a fair deal from his presidency? It is just like a member of Ku Klux Klan, the extremist white organization, coming to ask for votes from members of the black community in the US, or running for a national election. Buhari has shown biases for members of his ethnic group, what right does he now have to ask the whole nation to vote for him? Has he ever spoken for the interest of the South? The answer is no. Not a word was heard from him during the numerous ethno-religious crises in the north in which southerners and Christians were killed. Not a word from this man who wants my vote, the vote of a southern Christian. The only time he spoke up was to defend Sharia and the right of Muslims to have the religious legal system.
    Buhari’s actions show that his worldview is narrow and shaped by his ethnicity and religion. There is no reason to believe he has changed. So why should I commit the leadership of my country into the hands of a proven religious bigot and tribalist? Why?
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    arch411@ Even if his kids attend an american school here in Nigeria at that rate, of cos the money still lives here in this country, provide jobs for some Nigerians in that school , and if I am not wrong for the fact that the school have been in existence before GEJ even became governor, that school must be paying tax..All these comes back to the Nigerian goverment. And you asked that you want to know how the 500,000 job would be feasible..I beg to ask you a question. Do you listen to news at all, if you listened to him then he outlined how this would work. 500, 000 feasible jobs doesn't mean full time within the oil and gas....There would be direct and indirect labour. Contract would be there too. I think you have not been to the Niger-delta before to see many of the flow-stations.. I did my IT with shell and I can count the number of flow stations shell alone owns and each of this flow stations flare gas like water.....wasting our reasources...But if Gas gathering plants can be built to gather most of this gas, do you think it would be one gas station that would be built to do that.......?Talking from the plannning stage, design stage, where you have the autocad engineers, computer engineers who be the one to take care of this computers, project engineers inclusives, on site HSE engineeers, quality assurance specialist--- This is even different from the refinery that would be constructed by the multinationals which 3 companies have already signed MOU into...At least if you get a job with any of this comapanies on the fat salary you get, are you not going to employ at least two person to do something for you in your house. Either a driver for your mum or something you probably cannot have time for. This is how wealth is spread ...So think...Or you think you would be the only one to benefit from such if you eventually get the job...It is a chain of benefit. Look with the gas revolution in Nigeria which he launched...I can confidently tell you this that the number of companies in the oil and gas industry would be doubled because gas utility and petrochemicals is a different ball game entirely... Also they would be used to produced enough fertilizer..Now farmers can get it cheap rather than going for imported fertilizers...This area of the economy is even different from the power generation where there would be total privatisation and system overhauling ...You just don't know a lot..Because GEJ is a silent achiever and he's working ... If you really want to know what is happening in the power sector...Go to www.nigeriapowerreform.org then you sure would get informed.... If you open that document, the presidential task force includes the Minister of Petroleum and the GMD.What are they doing in this reform? To use our wasting resources in the Niger Delta to drive our power sector..After country likes Japan buy Gas into their country just drive their power station...Which is even different from their Nuclear reactor. Of we dont have to go Nuclear because we have gas in abudance...So should we be different...Don't be a confused man..Just make sure you are informed....

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    @Adexy...I quite agree with ur analysis of the situation at hand in Nigeria, though I didnt study one of d major oil&gas courses, i know if this project succeeds, it will favor us all, if not me,somebody i know..

    Bt...I will advise u to take kindly to those dat hold a different view from urs, this is a thread and u cant ve a balanced discussion if there is no dissent view from yours. If u take tym to read their submissions, u will find elements of truth in their arguments. Why do we have to believe any of this contestants/any politician? cos they ve mis-used and mis-managed d opportunities we ve given them. I advise u dont become soo sentimental and miss d point. For me,I am seeing pple drummimng d Jonathan drum just for a change from Northern presidency,if not: going thru his profile both as Bayelsa state Governor and now President, leaves much to be desired..He seems to ve lofty ideas bt not strong-willed and seems sometyms to look d oda way why things go wrong,why d pple he wants to lead are being massacred in Jos/Maiduguri/and everyoda part of d country, by heartless and faceless individuals. He seems sooo busy campaigning wen it is appearing most of his would-be voters are now in d graves, courtesy of those he is not interested in pursuing. I quite agree that d Naija political terrain is quite slippery and must be approached with diplomacy, but STRONG_WILL must be in d CV of whoeva shld emerge as our leader.


    Again, as youths, I always would prefer if we dont harbor strong resentment against pple of oda ethnicity cos u were almost using the NOTHERN RULING CLASS to adjudge the WHOLE NOTHERNERS as highly biased. Though,the ethnicity thing has always played out as u mentioned them, bt i wld prefer u letting out ur anger without names-calling cos this forum is made up of pple from every tribe and such will only fan d flames of enemity in d minds of all...

    Bt all in all, a great analysis you ve got there,hope to meet u sometym in 20...wen we wil be public office holders bt then u must ve learnt to take kindly to opposition, if not u will go down d drains as those u are critisizing...lol..

    @fyn-boy...(I bu ezigbo nwa afo Igbo!!)
    Ur argument and analysis is jst d perfrect answer to the issue at hand.Have we taken tym to dig out d past of these would-be leaders. What do we make of d drama dat played out as debates for the presidential election? Where we had boycotting/absenteeism at debates and where we also watched a SOLO DEBATE!! How long will they insult our SENSIBILITIES I have no kind word for CPC/ACN/ANPP who decided against d 2nd debate to pay GEJ bak in hz own coins..Thats sheer nonsense!!! It goes to tell u dat none of them understands d esence of debating..Are they debating for GEJ or are they not MARKETING THEMSELVES FOR THE ELECTORATES?? Poor Us!!! our votes has neva counted!! if not, all of them from PDP>>>>ANPP shld be counting their losses now.

    How long will this continue? Thank God last Sat election was shifted, as I can authoritatively tell you dat majority of the pple i asked in my area, dont even know d candidates dat ar seekin to represent us in d lower&upper chamber...I cant remember any of them campaigning or saying anything to convince us,all i know is their names from the posters that littered everywhere!! Funny enogh, i know d candidates from my home constituencies and their programs, bt in Lagos here, i heard nothing from them..

    If we continue our analysis, I bet u dat d list of reasons not to vote any of d candidates of PDP/ACN/ANPP/CPC cannot be exhausted cos they are almost all birds of a feather with one thing or the oda hanging on their neck.. then d question is, WHO IS OUR BEST BET?

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    @Amaka you have really made a good point here..I really do not have issue with our fellow brothers in the North on tribal issue..What am actually against is there leaders in the North..They are just not ready to improve the lives of their fellow brother there in the North and if you look at it very well, many of the electorates in the north are not even seeing it that way because their leaders have constantly brain washed them. They believe education is not good for them but arabic study all through...One wonders where our country Nigeria would turn to if they adopt sharia in Nigeria...However I appreciate your advise..No vex with me..infact friends make una no vex...I just dey boil..I just dey paranoid because someone cannot because of his own problem withhold my own success....I want to move forward.....

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    @Amaka you have really made a good point here..I really do not have issue with our fellow brothers in the North on tribal issue..What am actually against is their leaders in the North..They are just not ready to improve the lives of their fellow brother there in the North and if you look at it very well, many of the electorates in the north are not even seeing it that way because their leaders have constantly brain washed them. They believe education is not good for them but arabic study all through...One wonders where our country Nigeria would turn to if they adopt sharia in Nigeria...However I appreciate your advise..No vex with me..infact friends make una no vex...I just dey boil..I just dey paranoid because someone cannot because of his own problem withhold my own success....I want to move forward.....

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    @adexzy007, u ar very stupid! Y ar u so blind? Y dnt u understand, y all these abuses & sentiments? Pls respect ur self! All y all these accusations of political bias in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kexo View Post
    @adexzy007, u ar very stupid! Y ar u so blind? Y dnt u understand, y all these abuses & sentiments? Pls respect ur self! All y all these accusations of political bias in this thread.

    Hey bros!!! no names-calling!! When will we learn to tolerate others? If you read AdeXYZ's last post, then I dont see why u jst posted dis comment..learn to allow odas air their opinion and pick one/two things from it. I have also been to the North and u will actually agree with me dat the political elites ensures dat d wealth circulate in their circle and the poor gets poorer and more dependent... bt lyk I said earlier,A few cannot be a good standard for measuring d whole of the north....

    having said that,lyk ADEXYZ, I await ur apology to me becos u jst breached the rules of "no-names-calling" dat "the disciplinarian" has laid down!! lol..

    Is the apology ready?

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    Amaka....No vex......Abeg spank me...Apology tender...But @kexo..No whala...I know sey I dey stupid...Infact very stupid....But if I catch u outside...You go see the good, bad and the ugly of my side....I would use that my stupidity to deal with you..Just pray make I no catch u....I for call you names but Madam don sey make we stop.....And I'll keep to the rules....

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    @Amaka, Nyc one! y did u not utter a word when the so called southerner abused, accused and intimidates Nigerian Leaders. he said ''Tell me...How you expect a thief to rigg a thief... Can anyone in this room tell me if any of this party is worth voting for... Because we talk about no rigging but tell me...Can you vouch for RIBADU.. Who once called is God father Bola ahmed tinubu a fraud and now he's boss....Buhari a coup plotter...the 52 briefcase stocked with foreign currency..Toppled a civilian government that got us back into this mess and on and on to IBB and stupid abacha.......''

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    @Kexo...Nawa oo..See wetin u even marked out from my comment...That's not big enough at all..I do not think I have crossed the line if that is what you are judging me on...Who knows if any of these guys is your relative cos I see no reason why you should be angry over these names I mentioned...Anyway..I no get your time...

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    ADEXZY007,u have spoken well.But i tell u one thing come may 29th 2011,GEJ will still be in office no matter how dirty the other politicians play it in the coming general elections.I tell u one thing,do u honestly think GEJ is so ignorant of the money politics in the country,or doesn't know how to play his political cards well enough.Buhari,Ribadu,IBB and the rest hypocrites who strive on the freedom of innocent Nigerians can go to hell for all that i care.The political structure and system in Nigeria is flawed,and as such there is no such thing as free and fair election devoid of rigging.It is left for u & i to decide whether we would like to be ruled by the North again.How many political parties do we have in Nigeria?The answer to that question would simply tell u whether or not we ve genuine politicians who re really willing to serve the country,or simply rip the country off as we ve seen in the past or simply wanting to ve a feel of power.
    If u play politics without considering the geographical terrain of Nigeria,and without forming allies,do u honestly think even the so call rigging would favour the minorities,this is a question for u ADEXZY007.If the north decides to converge to rig,and the south does the same do u think GEJ will win?.
    Why do u thing SAMBO is the running mate(vice president) of GEJ.See ADEXZY007,when u analyse polotical matters don't bring in ur emotions or sentiments,because u feel we re in the minority.The political factors that brought GEJ into power before things further worked in his favour re still there.After the death of yaradua do u think some of the north wanted GEJ,how did he weather the storm.I guess u don't know,do u?.If the elections is perceive to be rigged in disfavour of GEJ, by the south-south,Niger-delta to be precise,what do u think will happen to the fragile peace in that region.Why do u think GEJ was hand picked to be VP,in the first place.DO U THINK Nigeria would be able to exploit or explore for oil there. Don't be naive ADEXZY007.

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