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How advantageous is an MSc?
Does an Msc really make one skip da onus of writing coy's aptitude test?because most Coys still insist on 2.1 Bsc degree& 27yrs of age as a min requirement.I dont see how an Msc puts one @ an advantage,im 26yrs. and if i go 4 an Msc now i may be 28yrs when im done .dats ma fear!pls hse ur prompt respose ll be highly appreciated.
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I have an Msc from a UK university though its advantegous but i still write company test. Even over there in the UK Msc graduate still write employement tests. Is inevitable, unless for all some very small companies, some of them can offer you a job without the test though they dont pay much which will find there pay far to small to your qualification.
Its a year now that i finished my MSC and I havent gotten a job yet, but i cant say its the same for everybody.everything depends on luck and destiny. There are people without Msc that are doing good jobs.
Well i think it depends on what your doing at the moment, if your idle, you could take up Msc instead of wasting away time but if your doing a good job, why dont work for sometime then take study leave so that as soon as you finish your Msc you will have a job to fall back to immediately.
Well, im still hope on God for his mercies in this job issue
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An Msc is good and could be an advantage but it wont necessarily Make you skip written assessment and all. Getting an Msc is cool but an Msc in what as different jobs with different requirements.the Msc might later not even be relevant to the job you finally get and when recruiting for graduate trainee the requirement is Bsc. They favor professional exams more.go for Msc and search for jobs still.best of luck
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Kobim, you have spoken well..
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My fear in going for Msc. is for example if u have an M.Sc in engr. & at the end of the day u finally get a job in a bank, then, the MSc is then irrelevant. So i prefer having a secured job first & then going for d MSc in that field
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Every1 has spoken well,but one thing with Msc is that it will always give you an edge over others,imagine you were employed alongside Bsc with ur Msc u will find urself being thier boss whn promotion arises,it may also makeup for experience i.e with Msc, companies may nt ask you experience years they ar asking Bsc.
Also UN jobs require Msc,if u ar with Bsc then u cant apply for anthing reasonable with UN.
But note go for your Msc if u are nt working yet,so dat smetin will be achived whn u waiting for job!
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hav got a BSc in Geology.and im kinda ambivalent on a course 2 foda in...hav bin finking of an MSc.Geophysics,but da challenge is wt if i cant secure a job in da oil industry?does it mean i'll be irrelevant?or perhaps i cld go 4 an MSC.in Environmental management?so dat i may not be particularly restricted 2 da oil sector..Dis are my concerns really ...Fanks all 4 ur Intellectual &Educative responses.
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@Pangizee...An MSc Is sure good,but be careful how U apply it cos some coys may tell U U re Ova qualified for a particular position esp wen its an entry level job...All I m saying is go for ur MSc but wen U going for a job position get to knw d exact requirements of d job before U put forward ur MSC
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@nocool:wow splendid!!!!!u toooo much!!
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@Pangizee: if you are considering getting an MSc in Environmental Management for the sole reason of versatility, I strongly recommend that you thoroughly research the course content and ensure that it is interdisciplinary before taking any further action otherwise you may just end up as restricted as you would be with an MSc in Geophysics. Universities have a way of colourfully advertising and exaggerating their courses so I'd advice you look beyond their websites and prospectus. I have an MSc in Environmental Management from a top UK university and even though I'm better off for it, I must admit that the outcome turned out to be way less than I had anticipated before I joined the course. This is because in my opinion, there were certain missing elements in the course which makes me feel a little bit less confident in my versatility. But then again, that's just my opinion.
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tahaj:Fanks alot i gotta"Think outside the box"then...u are off da hook man!!
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Decide on what career you intend to pursue. It's not just about bagging a(n) MSc.
You can't however go wrong with an MSc in Management or Int'l Business.
If there's a specific career path you want to follow say H/R, Project Management etc, then specific MSc's would do...
Cheers
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I plan resigning 4rm my present job 2 go 4 my Msc in unilag. Am 25 n shuld be arund 27 at completion of my Msc. But my HR wuld nt accept my resignation leta advicing 2 build a career am at a crossroad wat shuld i do?
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Depends. What you doing the masters in?
You explored the option of taking the course part-time?
How many years work experience you have already?
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@Pangizee: You are most welcome.
PS: tahaj is a 'she' :)
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Originally Posted by agbodo
I plan resigning 4rm my present job 2 go 4 my Msc in unilag. Am 25 n shuld be arund 27 at completion of my Msc. But my HR wuld nt accept my resignation leta advicing 2 build a career am at a crossroad wat shuld i do?
I STRONGLY ADVISE U. DO NOT RESIGN, except if it not a career job. i mean if it is somthing like teaching. else DO NOT RESIGN abeg.
@all, my opinion is this. most applications today request for some 2 - 3 years experience, anything u can do to get dat is worth it.
There are some companies however, that u dare not show ur MSc certificate wen applying. u may show it wen u av been recruited bt not before appointment.
Masters does not count for, everywhere. in some places, it actually count against.
I wld like to bag my Msc. and have it for keeps, in case i woulkd need it.
Another vital point to consider is age. If a company requires 2.1 and somone </==26years, u may not be considered if u are a day older dan 26years, even if u present PhD. in ur credentials
One luv!
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Originally Posted by dynamicfellow
I STRONGLY ADVISE U. DO NOT RESIGN, except if it not a career job. i mean if it is somthing like teaching. else DO NOT RESIGN abeg.
@all, my opinion is this. most applications today request for some 2 - 3 years experience, anything u can do to get dat is worth it.
There are some companies however, that u dare not show ur MSc certificate wen applying. u may show it wen u av been recruited bt not before appointment.
Masters does not count for, everywhere. in some places, it actually count against.
I wld like to bag my Msc. and have it for keeps, in case i woulkd need it.
Another vital point to consider is age. If a company requires 2.1 and somone </==26years, u may not be considered if u are a day older dan 26years, even if u present PhD. in ur credentials
One luv!
I strongly agree with dynamicfellow
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For me , I think all these fears are uncalled for . Whatever your field in your masters, it is never wasted. Go for masters in whatever you have passion for. If at the end of the day you don't work in that field, it is not irrelevant. Do you get the masters and just go to sleep? certainly NO. There are some job openings that require experience and masters as added advantage- if it falls within your passion zone. Go for it. That you you went for master in banking field becos you are employed in a banking sector shouldn't be . What then if your dream job suddenly surface?
The whole thing is setting goal for yourself that will help you on the long term. I don't believe fate rules I believe man decides his fate.
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@e.diamond, u ve spoken well. Why r we all scared of d future.
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I believe ones decision to go for Msc should be when the person has got a job to do. Your first job has alot to play in your career path. When you get your first job and believe you are ok to build a career in that area, then go for MSc in that area. Realities on ground has shown that quitting your job for MSc is risky in Nigeria today, cos we have many Masters holders even from abroad that are still caught up in this job search saga.
On the other hand, If you dont have a job and the job is not forthcoming, instead of wasting away your time, go for your Msc.God helps, you get a job while doing it and you can cope with both, fine!
I was doing my Msc when I got my job. I could not cope with the two. I had to quit the Msc.No regret all. I am beginning to go for another Msc that is in line with my career and job. Thank you.
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I have a B.Sc Biochem but am tinking of doing M.Sc Chemical Engr in Nigeria. How is that going to help my chances of getting a gud job though am not currently employed.or will it restrict me to a certain area.thanks
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Everyones point is valid. I have a friend with BSc(can't remember) MSc(Food something) and he currently works in Logistics Dept of an oil firm.
Summarily, an MSc is always advantageous(cos ofcourse it shows ur postgraduate learning competence) it is however more advantageous to you when it is in a relevant course in line with your career aim...
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Originally Posted by Pangizee
Does an Msc really make one skip da onus of writing coy's aptitude test?because most Coys still insist on 2.1 Bsc degree& 27yrs of age as a min requirement.I dont see how an Msc puts one @ an advantage,im 26yrs. and if i go 4 an Msc now i may be 28yrs when im done .dats ma fear!pls hse ur prompt respose ll be highly appreciated.
It all depends on the JOB you are applying for. If they specified that MSc. is required, then it will be advantageous.
But if it is a management trainee job, or an entry level job, and the minimum requirement is a BSc with 2.1, than i must tell you that even an BSc. 1st class, MSc., or a Ph.D will be utterly useless in boosting your chances. in fact it may even work against you because the assessors will be picking on you in your personal interview.
All they are looking for is for you to prove yourself whether you hold MSc, or PhD.
fROM MY EXPERIENCE WITH UNILEVER ASSESSMENT, FOR THOSE WHO ATTENDED, THEY CAN TELL YOU THAT A LOT OF THE CANDIDATES THERE HAD MSc from many foreign universities, even to the fact that unilever paid thie flight tickets from their foreign locations down to Nigeria, but in the end the final result speaks for itself.
What i am trying to emphasise here is not that MSc is not important, because at some stage in your career, it will definitely speak for you. But the major thing is that you work on yourself in an interview, and forget about the fact that you have an MSc because people with BSc may even flaw those with MSc even from foreign universities
But if you dont have any job to do now, it will be a good idea to go for an MSc to keep yourself busy.
See you at the top....
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MSC DEGREE WITHOUT ANY WORK EXPERIENCE, U WILL STILL HAVE TO APPLY FOR ENTRY LEVEL JOBS WHICH IN MOST CASES UR OVER QUALIFIED FOR IT AND THIS COULD RISK UR CHANCES OF BEING SELECTED DURING A RECURITMENT PROCESS
I'M TALKING FROM EXPERIENCE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ME AT THE MOMENT.
I WENT FOR MSC FROM A TOP UK UNIVERSITY AS SOON AS I FINISHED MY NYSC SO I DONT HAVE MUCH WORKING EXPERIENCE AND NOW WHEN I APPLY FOR JOBS THAT REQUIRE MSC THEY TELL ME I WASNT SELECTED BECAUSE I DONT HAVE THE LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE THEY REQUIRE AND WHEN I APPLY FOR ENTRY LEVEL JOBS THEY TELL ME THAT I AM OVER QUALIFIED.
I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT TO DO ANY MORE, IM JUST IN THE MIDDLE.
SO I STRONGLY ADVICE ANY ONE WITH A GOOD JOB TO WORK FOR SOME YEARS AND THEN TAKE STUDY LEAVE TO DO MSC INSTEAD OF RESIGNING IN THAT WAY YOU DONT LOOSE YOUR JOB.
JUST LIKE ONE OF US SAID IN HERE THAT THE JOB SITUATION IN NIGERIA NOW IS DIFFICULT EVEN FOR PEOPLE WITH MSC FROM ABROAD
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Kobim, your points are valid. But the part about the level of experience is what I don't quite agree with.
I know someone who applied for a position that required 7yrs experience. He was fresh from University at that point and he got the jobs. Employers are looking to hire people who would add value to their firms. If you're able to convince an employer of this, I am certain you would get the job.
And I also don't agree that anyone would tell you that you're overqualified for an EntryLevel job just becos you have an MSc. I'm involved directly/otherwise with graduate recruitment processes. The MSc degree is not taken into consideration at all.
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@ Jediknerd
Well things dont happen for people the same way besides different company with different recruitment process and requirements.
I was only saying my experience soo far with my MSC
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If at any interview you were told you are overqualified, simply tell them it is to the advantage of the recruiting coy. That it shows your learning exposure. Such questions are not posed to put you down rather what you have to offer with great exposure as the qualification presupposes.
If you are scared that your 'intellectual progress' would put you down, then don't include it in your CV. But I tell you that would be a bad advice. My mentor once told me that "if you must go for something worthwhile, then bring your best foot forward".
We are just scared for nothing! Worldwide , a second degree is advantageous even when it is not relevant. Why? Because it simply shows you are ahead.
The problem is that we just want a job that will put food on our table. Remember one fact of employment- being in the employ of any company can never make you rich until you have a plan for yourself. Like I use to say " nothing gets better in life unless you first get better" And getting better you have to keep learning.
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I don't think I could have said it any better than e-diamond. The point remains that no one in his proper mind would tell you an MSc makes you "overqualified" for a job.
And in many cases people cannot justify their reasons for applying to a position neither can they convince the interviewers why they should be employed. This is the essence of interviews and any recruiting process and if you are able to justify that you are worth the employment risk, the firm would recruit you.
It is usually that simple Kobim
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what about having Msc in Project Management, its varsatlie
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@Pangizee, there is nothing wrong in grabbing an M.Sc. U did mention that u r currently unemployed so instead of waiting for a job and doing nothing, u can start ur M.sc while u wait for a job to come along. U may be fortunate that after ur M.sc u may get a job in the area of ur study. I must say that things are tough right now and sometimes it does appear as if people with post graduate degrees are no better than people with bachelors degree, but the truth is if eventually u get a job with ur qualification, it becomes a roller coaster ride. My friend’s dad was unemployed for over 2years with a master's degree in the mid 1980s but when he eventually got a job, (hmm my brother, the Guy is on top of his game, he moved up the chain very fast and is now 3rd in command in the organization where he works, a federal government parastatal). Another thing is that there are certain kind of international jobs that you can’t apply for if you don’t have a masters' degree, especially UN jobs. But it is also good getting work experience before furthering because with all the qualifications recruiters will tend to pick someone with more work experience and a lower qualification than someone with higher qualifications and little or no work experience.
@Agbodo, my advice is this, do not resign, work and do your masters’ part time or work for some more years and qualify for study leave so that after your studies you will still have a job to fall back on, pending when you will get another job of your choice. The decision is however yours to take, we can only advice. And a lot of us on this forum speak from experience.
All the best
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Thanks guyz! I guess i need 2 ve a rethink.
Job security first while degree follows.... Hmmmmmmmmm
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@ e-diamond, who in Nigeria will not be worried about the future. with the job situation in Nigeria, who is not worried about job security.
Let me ask you one thing, if you were working in a company like chevron with your first degree, would you resign to go for MSC when u know that u can do it part time or equally work for some and take study leave and still keep your job and if possible get a promotion after the MSC or resign a good job like that, go for MSC and after that you start job hunting because ones you resign from a company, its almost impossible for them to take you back.
Please which is better because that is the problem most of class mate for MSC class are having today.
My dear the labour market today is soo tough that one has to fear for the future and be wise when making career decision.
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HIT THE NAIL AT THE HEAD...AM MSC HOLDER WILL ALWAYS HAVE AN EDGE OVER A BSC HOLDER IF THEY ARE PLACED ON LEVELED QUALIFICATION GROUNDS. MULTINATIONALS PREFER MSC HOLDERS.............INRESPECTIVE OF AGE
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With Msc or not u are expected to at least write a job test but it gives you edge over any one with first degree. The truth of the matter is that Nigerian government is not doing anything reasonable to help the situation. However, you could pick a lecturing job with your Msc and you can live a good life. Is actually fun to teach, u will like it; having an Msc is a dream come true. Think about that instead of staying without anything for now. Afterall Msc is a professional qualification. You have become an authority in your field. It is a great thing; explore the chance of impacting knowledge on people. Wishing u luck.
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what about having Msc in Project Management, its varsatlie
True Talk.
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@ e-diamond, who in Nigeria will not be worried about the future. with the job situation in Nigeria, who is not worried about job security.
My dear the labour market today is soo tough that one has to fear for the future and be wise when making career decision.
@Kobim; I do understand you. but by worrying/fearing what will you achieve? Tell me.
I'm supposed to worry more; six years after graduation I had no 'real job'. I tried many things on my own which included bringing graduates together to run evening classes for SSCE/GCE/JAMB while still applying and attending interviews, till employed and until today, I am where I am. Although not on the 'ooh lahlah or eldorado' job but I am comfortable- reasonably comfortable. Comfortable not because I wait for the end of the month to collect my salary but because I still do business.
Our emphases are always on getting a job in the job market- which can limit your creativity by blinding you from yourself. You don't see your worth.
You talk about job security- it never existed, when you are not the proprietor of the business.
I do sympathise with the desperation of all, I've been there before but I tell you, it's no use nor does it help worrying or fearing. Look inward and be proactive. Success is in you!
If you get a job ...Good. But that's not all there is to you.
Don't die for the fear of the future when you have the best gift of the present- 'Today'
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I think it depends on your career path as others have said. The situation in our country today is worrisome. You'll see graduates with several qualifications n certifications, all to stand above the crowd with zero work experience, then u will want to ask, why all the learnin and effort if i never get to practice, in fact, knowledge gained might become dormant and almost forgotten.
In my own opinion, av been studyin all my life to this stage, i'd rather got a job first then model my career along that line.
All the best peeps, we will make it in this life by God's grace.
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get the job and run the two concurently, M.sc is most important in promotions not neccessarily getting the job
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D way Msc was designed was for further specialization in a field of study, as well as, for the experienced hands-who can apply their experience & understanding in their respective field of study.
However, it has been abused by both sides(job seekers & employers)
Msc has an advanatg wen u hav experience 2 back it up(right way) - u get d pay for dat level OR
u hav an advantage bcos ur employer taks u(since it ads 2 d efizy of having Msc employeesto his kitty) over Bsc candidates(wrong way)-u get d job but not d comensurate pay.
My advice...get a job/work/business & den a Msc (if u stil want) later... I don't realy support going 4 d Msc 1st (unless u can't help it).... ;)