@cente i understand ur anger but i howeva wants us to be discrete abt ths issue. The undeniable fact is dat these pple meant well. They are victims of a process that remain shrouded in secrecy. Regardng JA we need to give him some respect, he has gven some authentic info on ths forum in the past. If hs info are not real this time around, there might be reason for that. For vin20 let us be careful wt our choice of words. We re all victims of a failed system. May God help us all.