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is so painful that when someone wants to work in Nigeria.the system will always frustrate them.i see no reason why calumny ,mudsliung, mundane and premordial sentiuments will be used against a hardwking and ever ready woman.i really vexed.am disappointed at the legislators.....i really dont knw what to say about this country.....if BOKO HARAM ADVERTISE...I THINK i wiill consider applying....all those foreign companies that the few legislators are supporting to bring this country down wiill soon DIE. AND I MEAN IT.....B4 I FORGET...jesus army THANKS
Well said mate! Nothing do us though. All the best!
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Thanks a million Jesus Army. May His grace be with you and with all members of the house on our way to getting this job.
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Streuby....... i say a big amen oooooo. JA........ Many thanks to you Jesus Army for keeping our hope alive about this much awaited nnpc 2nd stage of the recruitment exercise.
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Good info....keep it going man
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[QUOTE=Adumamama;484117][QUOTE=@Jesus Army;tanx for ur wonderful contribution on thi forum.pls i stand to disagree wit u on the issue of trainee operator and the pIB thing.first the recruitment exercise prsently is not on the basis of the pib cos even if the bill is passed ,it wil take like another two years b4 the impact is feed on the syetem.presently ppmc alone need more than 400 operators within d sbu.there is a strong shortage operator to the point that some of us who are Fire men were asked to assume duty in some places as operator and like wise Enginners.for now GT IS GOING to be10/state, operators 10/state.for EH ,the number has reduced drastically frm 150 to 70.the exercise wil favour more operators while dat of gt will be70/30 with more sciences.elect ur letters tentatively from upper week.@jajamark , nnpc is not open to dat kid of fraud where 400 slot wil go to senators. i tel u most times ,nnpc dont honour such request.and if there do, such senator must be directly linked wit d gmd and experience hires most times is on recommendation frm management staff.happened during kukpolokun.the little i know.[/QUOTE]
I DEY WAIT DIE. RHANK YOU FOR THIS TIMELY INFO
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rugged geologist
is so painful that when someone wants to work in Nigeria.the system will always frustrate them.i see no reason why calumny ,mudsliung, mundane and premordial sentiuments will be used against a hardwking and ever ready woman.i really vexed.am disappointed at the legislators.....i really dont knw what to say about this country.....if BOKO HARAM ADVERTISE...I THINK i wiill consider applying....all those foreign companies that the few legislators are supporting to bring this country down wiill soon DIE. AND I MEAN IT.....B4 I FORGET...jesus army THANKS
brother,dont loose hope over this nation. like i said, i do not in any way doubt or disparage the intelligence of jonathan.
i am indeed amazed, to see the name of the minister, amongst those presently being screened.
this is despite the fact that she wasnt nominated by her state governor and party,and she is having a rough battle with the IOCs and legislators.
i see the hand of God in all these, and im confident to say that in the nearest future, we will get there.
im informed that the process is presently ongoing:sources say madam wouldnt like the process to be dependent on her.
despite the fact that she may likely come back, she supports the process without her presence.
im in warri...im confident of the best
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It is well! If working with NNPC is in one's destiny, it will never be taken away from one. It may delay but it will surely come to pass. Keep hope alive!
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hope is d only thing dat make live.so let not tired out
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@Jesus Army - Thanx alot. Your posts always give me more hope. Hmm... this waiting period, no be small matter oo!
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brother,dont loose hope over this nation. like i said, i do not in any way doubt or disparage the intelligence of jonathan.
i am indeed amazed, to see the name of the minister, amongst those presently being screened.
this is despite the fact that she wasnt nominated by her state governor and party,and she is having a rough battle with the IOCs and legislators.
i see the hand of God in all these, and im confident to say that in the nearest future, we will get there.
im informed that the process is presently ongoing:sources say madam wouldnt like the process to be dependent on her.
despite the fact that she may likely come back, she supports the process without her presence.
im in warri...im confident of the best
The name of the Minister on the list actually amazed me. It brought Jesus Army to my mind and I said God is working things in our favor!
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We will continue to wait until God answers us. Whether or not Madam is returning, the "WILL" of God be done. He who waits till the end shall reap bountifully. Nnpc...........
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I am happy to inform the house that NNPC will never stammer and abandon the recruitment process. Goodluck jonathan has made it abundantly clear that there must be continuity whether ministers return or not, i am also happy to inform the house that madam Allison will definetly return as the minister for petroleum, her name has been forwarded but the senate recess has prevented screening, the senate will reconvene on the 28th of june, so we should expect the process to continue by july. goodluck to everybody.
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Thanks for the update bro! Nice one there.
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Just got info from sources within the edifice that the cut off marks for the just concluded test are 60 for the South and 40 for the North. Wishing all of us the best.
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na wa o so these iliterate northernals still edge over us?i wonder y ds disparity
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Nawao for this condition. Expectedly, after they use this 60% / 40% criterion and discover southerners still perform well, the issue of federal character will still come up, thereby giving the northerners more slots. If this info is genuine and anything to go by, it should be totally rejected. Didn't we attend the same institution, offer the same courses? Are they saying graduates of Almighty ABU are of low standard with their counterparts in OAU or UNIZIK? Or the ones that attended KADPOLY are not as intelligent as graduates of FEDPOLY,ADO-EKITI or FEDPOLY, NEKEDE? Sincerely, this condition isn't the best at all. Afterall, we underwent the same NYSC scheme. They should do this thing on a level playing ground and not on percentage quota.
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Nawao for this condition. Expectedly, after they use this 60% / 40% criterion and discover southerners still perform well, the issue of federal character will still come up, thereby giving the northerners more slots. If this info is genuine and anything to go by, it should be totally rejected. Didn't we attend the same institution, offer the same courses? Are they saying graduates of Almighty ABU are of low standard with their counterparts in OAU or UNIZIK? Or the ones that attended KADPOLY are not as intelligent as graduates of FEDPOLY,ADO-EKITI or FEDPOLY, NEKEDE? Sincerely, this condition isn't the best at all. Afterall, we underwent the same NYSC scheme. They should do this thing on a level playing ground and not on percentage quota.
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I see no reason why some people complain about the principle of equity as enshrined in the Federal Character requirement for all government appointments. The principle is fair and all inclusive that national iconic brands like FirstBank apply it in their recruitment process. Other multicultural and multiracial countries like the US and South Africa have this sort of arrangements as Affirmative Action to bridge the inequality in access to economic resources and employment by all races. In Nigeria, all 19 Northern states are classified as educationally less privileged even as the literacy level in the North is lower compared to the South. The principle of federal character therefore is meant to promote equal assess to the public good irrespective of limitations. When you attended the the NNPC recruitment test, you were competing against people from your state, for the slots allocated to your state and if you beat everyone from your state, the job is yours. If an indigent person from Abuja scores 20% in the test and he/she got the highest grade of those from Abuja who wrote the test, he/she gets the job even if someone from Lagos scores 80% and did not get the job because he/she came last amongst those from that state who wrote the same test. I ask those complaining about the North to find ways of effectively competing with lads from their state for the share of the public good allocated to them rather than enviously coveting Northern share. The principle of federal character must be uphold to guarantee equal opportunity for all. Most the people deriding the principle of federal character have forgotten that it came about when the South complained about domination by the North in federal appointments. How then could Southerners complain about the same law they demanded? The question is meant to be rhetorical.
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No body is giving Northerners more slots than Southerners. If 100 slots are allocated to each state, everyone will compete with those from their state for that 100 slots so that the first 100 candidates with the best scores from each state will be considered for appointment. Remember, since performance may vary across states, cut-off marks must also reflect individual state performance; fair, isn't it? You are a smart guy am sure, 60% will not be beyond your ability.
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I see no reason why some people complain about the principle of equity as enshrined in the Federal Character requirement for all government appointments. The principle is fair and all inclusive that national iconic brands like FirstBank apply it in their recruitment process. Other multicultural and multiracial countries like the US and South Africa have this sort of arrangements as Affirmative Action to bridge the inequality in access to economic resources and employment by all races. In Nigeria, all 19 Northern states are classified as educationally less privileged even as the literacy level in the North is lower compared to the South. The principle of federal character therefore is meant to promote equal assess to the public good irrespective of limitations. When you attended the the NNPC recruitment test, you were competing against people from your state, for the slots allocated to your state and if you beat everyone from your state, the job is yours. If an indigent person from Abuja scores 20% in the test and he/she got the highest grade of those from Abuja who wrote the test, he/she gets the job even if someone from Lagos scores 80% and did not get the job because he/she came last amongst those from that state who wrote the same test. I ask those complaining about the North to find ways of effectively competing with lads from their state for the share of the public good allocated to them rather than enviously coveting Northern share. The principle of federal character must be uphold to guarantee equal opportunity for all. Most the people deriding the principle of federal character have forgotten that it came about when the South complained about domination by the North in federal appointments. How then could Southerners complain about the same law they demanded? The question is meant to be rhetorical.
Your logic is severely flawed!
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Every expectant individual should remain hopeful and faithful. Avoid lenghty arguments that lead us off the topic at hand and concentrate more on information leading to the very topic under discussion.
Whatever methods they shose should be great for Nigerians because 'some' leaders have sworn to 'serve' and I'm confident a transformation of Nigeria isn't far away.
Believe it or not...Goodluck wants to serve and some of his actions will proven that point.
God bless!
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Thanks Jesus Army for taking ur time to update us on the happenstances going on in NNPC stuff. It is said "an expectation postponed makes the heart sick" but we are little bit healthy. LOL
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Your logic is severely flawed!
You could have explained how flawed it is. Your state and my state have equal slots for federal appointments, and that's flawed to you?
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My Big Brother Jesus Army, thanks for the update. You are too much
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Nawa ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. kristion I do not buy this contribution of yours. It is total impartial.
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thanks to u Jesusarmy, my God bless u for the care u have for us.
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I see no reason why some people complain about the principle of equity as enshrined in the Federal Character requirement for all government appointments. The principle is fair and all inclusive that national iconic brands like FirstBank apply it in their recruitment process. Other multicultural and multiracial countries like the US and South Africa have this sort of arrangements as Affirmative Action to bridge the inequality in access to economic resources and employment by all races. In Nigeria, all 19 Northern states are classified as educationally less privileged even as the literacy level in the North is lower compared to the South. The principle of federal character therefore is meant to promote equal assess to the public good irrespective of limitations. When you attended the the NNPC recruitment test, you were competing against people from your state, for the slots allocated to your state and if you beat everyone from your state, the job is yours. If an indigent person from Abuja scores 20% in the test and he/she got the highest grade of those from Abuja who wrote the test, he/she gets the job even if someone from Lagos scores 80% and did not get the job because he/she came last amongst those from that state who wrote the same test. I ask those complaining about the North to find ways of effectively competing with lads from their state for the share of the public good allocated to them rather than enviously coveting Northern share. The principle of federal character must be uphold to guarantee equal opportunity for all. Most the people deriding the principle of federal character have forgotten that it came about when the South complained about domination by the North in federal appointments. How then could Southerners complain about the same law they demanded? The question is meant to be rhetorical.
Guy, ur logic is flawed, as sb pointed out earlier! Federal appointments arent based on educational achievement, but on affiliation and lobbying! A job shd b based on OVERALL merit. This thing abt federal character is really annoying (U speak as though d present generation are the ones dat complained abt d political appoinment thing!
U seen to b unaware dat d same northerners are not disposed to education, as they are content with being 'd way they are'! Imagine sb getting less than average getting a job, that sb with almost 100 percent didnt get: that is how to ensure dat real thinkers/excellent pple dnt get jobs in our country and it results in a poor work culture and less tha average results/achievement for d company/country.
It is a truth that there are many BRILLIANT MINDS from the north-but those ones wil definitely get in on merit!!!! Well....
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kriston i do not agree with this your talk. when will this nation treat everyone equal?
whether north or south or wherever? what we need is the best hands for the job. that way a northerner who aspires to work in nnpc will work real hard and study thereby making his state educationally developed. it is a big marginallization to bring that talk into serious issues like this.
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thanks for the info, can any one update me on when they will start inviting pple for interview?
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hello house,will there still be a second test as we were made to believe before or is it just going to be interview?Also do we have anybody for EH in the house as i know a lot of posts on this subject is from GTs.
MAY GOD HELP US AS I KNOW ONLY THOSE COUNTED WORTHY BY GOD CAN GET THIS THING IN NNPC WE ARE ALL PURSUING.
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hello house,will there still be a second test as we were made to believe before or is it just going to be interview?Also do we have anybody for EH in the house as i know a lot of posts on this subject is from GTs.
MAY GOD HELP US AS I KNOW ONLY THOSE COUNTED WORTHY BY GOD CAN GET THIS THING IN NNPC WE ARE ALL PURSUING.
We the EHs are all here..waiting for that God's appointed time...I'm thanking HIM already!!
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KRISTION
I see no reason why some people complain about the principle of equity as enshrined in the Federal Character requirement for all government appointments. The principle is fair and all inclusive that national iconic brands like FirstBank apply it in their recruitment process. Other multicultural and multiracial countries like the US and South Africa have this sort of arrangements as Affirmative Action to bridge the inequality in access to economic resources and employment by all races. In Nigeria, all 19 Northern states are classified as educationally less privileged even as the literacy level in the North is lower compared to the South. The principle of federal character therefore is meant to promote equal assess to the public good irrespective of limitations. When you attended the the NNPC recruitment test, you were competing against people from your state, for the slots allocated to your state and if you beat everyone from your state, the job is yours. If an indigent person from Abuja scores 20% in the test and he/she got the highest grade of those from Abuja who wrote the test, he/she gets the job even if someone from Lagos scores 80% and did not get the job because he/she came last amongst those from that state who wrote the same test. I ask those complaining about the North to find ways of effectively competing with lads from their state for the share of the public good allocated to them rather than enviously coveting Northern share. The principle of federal character must be uphold to guarantee equal opportunity for all. Most the people deriding the principle of federal character have forgotten that it came about when the South complained about domination by the North in federal appointments. How then could Southerners complain about the same law they demanded? The question is meant to be rhetorical.
@KRISTON: I beg to disagree with you on the issue of "Federal Character". I see that this idea of federal character only makes the Northerners more "Lazy" and "averse" towards Education. They now sit in their "comfort zone", rest assured that what ever the case "Federal Character" will come to their rescue, that's one of (if not the major) the major things killing all the government parastatals in this country. For Nigeria to develop, we need to let the "Best and Educated" hands do the job. Most Multinational companies in Nigeria now recruit only the best qualified candidates, without any "connection" involved...whether you are from up country Sokoto State or from down south Rivers state, so far you can prove yourself, you'll get the job.
It might interest you to know that my place of work (Name reserved) is a typical example of such, 9 of us were employed at the time I joined and I can tell you that 5 of us are from Ogun State. None of the 9 had any "connection"...we were all employed stricly on MERIT (Glory to God for that).
My advice to you "Northerners" is that you guys need to embrace education more and come out of your "comfort zone" so that we can collectively take this country into the league of Developed Nations.
Naija for Life!!!
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@KRISTON: I beg to disagree with you on the issue of "Federal Character". I see that this idea of federal character only makes the Northerners more "Lazy" and "averse" towards Education. They now sit in their "comfort zone", rest assured that what ever the case "Federal Character" will come to their rescue, that's one of (if not the major) the major things killing all the government parastatals in this country. For Nigeria to develop, we need to let the "Best and Educated" hands do the job. Most Multinational companies in Nigeria now recruit only the best qualified candidates, without any "connection" involved...whether you are from up country Sokoto State or from down south Rivers state, so far you can prove yourself, you'll get the job.
It might interest you to know that my place of work (Name reserved) is a typical example of such, 9 of us were employed at the time I joined and I can tell you that 5 of us are from Ogun State. None of the 9 had any "connection"...we were all employed stricly on MERIT (Glory to God for that).
My advice to you "Northerners" is that you guys need to embrace education more and come out of your "comfort zone" so that we can collectively take this country into the league of Developed Nations.
Naija for Life!!!
You did very well bro in stating the obvious facts, why promote mediocrity in the name of federal character and we feel Nigeria would fare better when mediocrity is encouraged and sustained to the detriment of all
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KRISTION
I see no reason why some people complain about the principle of equity as enshrined in the Federal Character requirement for all government appointments. The principle is fair and all inclusive that national iconic brands like FirstBank apply it in their recruitment process. Other multicultural and multiracial countries like the US and South Africa have this sort of arrangements as Affirmative Action to bridge the inequality in access to economic resources and employment by all races. In Nigeria, all 19 Northern states are classified as educationally less privileged even as the literacy level in the North is lower compared to the South. The principle of federal character therefore is meant to promote equal assess to the public good irrespective of limitations. When you attended the the NNPC recruitment test, you were competing against people from your state, for the slots allocated to your state and if you beat everyone from your state, the job is yours. If an indigent person from Abuja scores 20% in the test and he/she got the highest grade of those from Abuja who wrote the test, he/she gets the job even if someone from Lagos scores 80% and did not get the job because he/she came last amongst those from that state who wrote the same test. I ask those complaining about the North to find ways of effectively competing with lads from their state for the share of the public good allocated to them rather than enviously coveting Northern share. The principle of federal character must be uphold to guarantee equal opportunity for all. Most the people deriding the principle of federal character have forgotten that it came about when the South complained about domination by the North in federal appointments. How then could Southerners complain about the same law they demanded? The question is meant to be rhetorical.
Well said Kriston, if we all know the nature of a man, (there must be affirmative action) and the politics and nepotism in our federal civil service before now, we should applaud d initiative of federal character.. And I wonder what makes the an average Southerner believes he's better than the average Northerner??? I'm a Southerner from the East and have bn exposed to the Northern elites.. Let's grow up and understand Naija politics... No man is better than d other in everything!! We blacks would have bn d victims of eugenics if God wasn't there..
@gzl you fail to recognize the truth, if ur firm's so-called recruitment process was SLIGHTLY fair, there is no way 5 out of 9 would come from ur state, what are you trying to make us believe? Check it very well ur hr/ceo/directors must be a practicing eugenicists...
God bless ourselves
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If America which set the precedent through the Affirmative Action could fare better and if this sort of mechanism could settle the racial questions in South Africa, why should it be different in Nigeria? Every state has equal number of candidates to be considered and our brothers from Niger-Delta will always get additional slots, that's fair to me. An aptitude test does not measure the capacity of someone to perform in the office, for fact most people who passed (obviously through fraudulent means) the test end up being mediocre. That law - Federal Character is the only solution to the fractional and divisive attitude we have towards capturing a share of the 'national cake' by numerous nationalities in the country. So let each state present their best candidates to be employed; let everyone compete with people from their state and let the best have the job.
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If America which set the precedent through the Affirmative Action could fare better and if this sort of mechanism could settle the racial questions in South Africa, why should it be different in Nigeria? Every state has equal number of candidates to be considered and our brothers from Niger-Delta will always get additional slots, that's fair to me. An aptitude test does not measure the capacity of someone to perform in the office, for fact most people who passed (obviously through fraudulent means) the test end up being mediocre. That law - Federal Character is the only solution to the fractional and divisive attitude we have towards capturing a share of the 'national cake' by numerous nationalities in the country. So let each state present their best candidates to be employed; let everyone compete with people from their state and let the best have the job.
You are right to an extent. However, affirmative action in America does not mean an equal amount of blacks MUST be employed in a particular organization. It just means an organization MUST EMPLOY black people, not necessarily an equal number.
I totally agree with you that each state must be represented in any government recruitment, but to make it equal across the board is not a true reflection of the educational levels in each state. I would rather a system based on a States academic performance, this will ensure more competent people are employed to represent the organization. You cannot give sokoto an equal number of slots as you would Ebonyi, when it is clear that Ebonyi has a much higher number of graduates each year. (this is just an example, I am not criticising sokoto as a state)